I didn't expect to see much of a difference between my Garmin 60CSx and my older 60CS. Due to the greater antenna sensitivity, I can now track on an airliner by placing the unit on the fold down tray. In the past I had to hold it up against the window which made some passengers nervous. This unit even worked well aboard a ship through thick porthole glass. Oh, and my Garmin is not from a French owned company!! On 11/14/06, az_pistolero wrote: > > I need to chime in that I like my GPS-V ($149). Lets me download > enough maps to cover a large city, albeit slowly over a serial link, > and it'll do road routes. The unit can also hold the Garmin Topos > (hidden until you turn off the MapSource maps). Runs for weeks on 4- > AA batteries, I use the rechargeable type and carry a set of alkaline > batteries as a backup. > > Jon > > On Nov 13, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Steven Stringham wrote: > > > I concur - I LOVE my 60csx. This is a unit with GREAT reception. That > > being said, it is also a lot more expensive than the other units. > > > > What I was really complaining about was the STUPID decision by SOME > > JERK > > who did not put a PC interface on a GPS. What kind of idiotic > > decision > > was that? It basically makes the unit completely, totally without > > value. > > > > And, then I found this site: > > http://rhamphorinkx.newmail.ru/connect.htm > > And this ebay site: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-data-cable-for-Magellan- > > eXplorist-100-200-300_W0QQitemZ200045702470QQihZ010QQcategoryZ94874QQr > > dZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > So, it might have an interface available for it. But, it is pretty > > ugly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guy Aldrich wrote: > >> I have to say the Garmin 60CSX is the most accurate unit I've seen > >> under all conditions and I have a Magellan meridian and a explorist > >> 210. With that new Cirf chip it seems to get you to ground zero > >> quicker . The explorist 210 has the most bang for the buck,You really > >> don't need a PDA because it displays type of container,full > >> name,terrain,difficulty,date last found and the full hint. > >> > >> On 11/13/06, Brian Casteel wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> I don't recall having problems like that in most cases. In fact, > >>> often > >>> times while sitting on my butt writing my cache log, I'll look > >>> over to the > >>> GPS and watch it flirt with 0' on a regular basis. If it happens > >>> to get no > >>> closer than 5' on a cache, I'd consider that quite excellent > >>> overall. > >>> Magellan has advantages over Garmin and likewise Garmin over > >>> Magellan. The > >>> most obvious between the 2 is the abundance of mapping software > >>> options > >>> Garmin has available to the very limited Magellan options. Of > >>> course, with > >>> the newer gen Garmin units, satellite acquisition is much better > >>> with the > >>> new SeRF chip. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Brian > >>> > >>> Team A.I. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ________________________________ > >>> > >>> > >>> From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com > >>> [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On > >>> Behalf Of Cordell Harris > >>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:06 AM > >>> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > >>> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Am I missing something - Magellen 200s > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> OK Scott. Did I fail to mention that we have had the opportunity > >>> to compare > >>> the performance of (7) seven Magellan and Garmins against each > >>> other while > >>> doing something like 500 plus caches all over the US. In my > >>> original > >>> missive a forgot about the emap unit. The units we used are the > >>> Garmin > >>> Emap, 76CS, Etrex Legend, Etrex Legend Vista Cx. The 3 Magellans > >>> were all > >>> Sportrack Pros. We seem to keep dropping them! Maybe I should > >>> also note > >>> that none of the units failed operationally. Of all the Garmins > >>> the Etrex > >>> Legend is the best, e.g. sensititivy and accuracy. All the > >>> others have/had > >>> serious errors of 7 to 10 ft on the high resolution scale. These > >>> errors are > >>> consistent with caches that were placed by careful knowledgeable > >>> cachers. > >>> We have also had opportunity to compare waypoints established > >>> scientifically > >>> by standards. The 3 Magellan Sportrack Pros were all perfect > >>> replicas and > >>> were dead on. I am not hostile toward Garmin, but cannot ignore > >>> results. > >>> Both mapsource and mapsend topos (I have both) will allow > >>> exchange of > >>> waypoints but not maps. What I would like to be able to do is > >>> use Delorme > >>> topo maps (superior) in either or both brands of receivers with > >>> Garmin > >>> waypoint symbols. My backhand at Garmin is simply because they > >>> are the > >>> industry leaders in terms of sales and promotions and for now get > >>> to set the > >>> trend. Magellan Sportrack Pros are a great deal and very > >>> adequate for > >>> geocaching. I repeat my offer to trade the etrex legend vista Cx > >>> for a > >>> eXplorist 500. There is nothing wrong with the vista Cx except > >>> the offset > >>> mentioned above. > >>> > >>> > >>> On 11/13/06, Roping The Wind wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> From: "Cordell Harris" > >>> > >>>> Magellan has better, more user friendly receivers that are more > >>>> sensitive > >>>> and accurate. If >unconvinced, try caching with the owner of a > >>>> Magellan > >>>> Sportrack Pro. Presently, we own two >Garmins a etrex legend and > >>>> an etrex > >>>> legend vista cx. > >>> > >>> The etrex line uses a patch antenna, which IMHO, is crap. > >>> Upgrade to the > >>> new > >>> 60CSX and you will probably never see anything more accurate. I > >>> do not > >>> beleive that you can compare two GPS units for accuracy on a single > >>> geocache > >>> or any geocache for that matter. The cache owner's coordinates > >>> could be off > >>> for one. Also, both your GPS units will give slightly different > >>> readings on > >>> where the cache is supposed to be. To find true accuracy, take a > >>> waypoint > >>> and mark it with your GPS. Of course, with any GPS, you have to > >>> leave it > >>> there for a few minutes for a most accurate reading (too many > >>> inexperienced > >>> cachers hide a cache, hit mark on their GPS and leave and dont > >>> allow the > >>> GPS > >>> to average location). Now, walk away a few hundred feet or more > >>> and then > >>> come back to ground zero and see where your GPS takes you. Do > >>> this with two > >>> units that you want to compare and see which one is most accurate. > >>> > >>> Of course, as Loran said, all GPS's these days are decently > >>> accurate. They > >>> will all take you to a waypoint and get you within 30 feet or > >>> less. Do the > >>> example above once and you will find that both GPS's did their > >>> job well > >>> enough. If you want to find truly which unit is better, with > >>> there still > >>> being slight errors in GPS's, you will still need to do the > >>> example above > >>> several times to average your results out to truly see which > >>> unit is > >>> better. > >>> Seems nit picky. Well it is... as I just said, all GPS's are > >>> accurate > >>> enough. Still, if you want a GPS for just geocaching or marking > >>> waypoints, > >>> then a patch antenna Etrex or a Magellan GPS Blazer 12 (now that is > >>> ancient! > >>> and I have one too) is all you need. If you want to mark a > >>> little hole in > >>> the ground that an ant just went in to and then come back a week > >>> later to > >>> find it... then you need to spend the bigger dollars for a unit > >>> with a 12 > >>> channel SiRFstar III high-sensitivity (WAAS-enabled) chip and > >>> built-in quad > >>> helix antenna, with external antenna connection (like the Garmin > >>> 60csX). > >>> Either units will get you to a geocache or any point for that > >>> matter. But > >>> the latter technology will, on average, get you to a specific > >>> point more > >>> consistantly. > >>> > >>>> Garmins are overpriced/overrated and as industry leaders don't > >>>> like the > >>>> strangle hold they maintain >on proprietary mapping software. > >>>> We badly > >>>> need mapping software that will function universally in >handhelds. > >>> > >>> Correct me if I am wrong, but doesnt Magellan also use > >>> proprietary mapping > >>> software? (Mapsend). I could be wrong on this, but I beleive > >>> both Magellan > >>> and Garmin have their own specific mapping software that must be > >>> used for > >>> mapping. I think both brands will accept some other mapping > >>> software, but > >>> only for uploading and transfering of waypoints, tracks, etc and > >>> not maps. > >>> If you want maps in your unit, you have to use their own mapping > >>> software > >>> (Mapsend or Mapsource). > >>> > >>> Scott > >>> Team Ropingthewind > >>> > >>> _________________________________________________________________ > >>> Try the next generation of search with Windows Live Search today! > >>> http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en- > >>> us&source=hmtagline > >>> > >>> ____________________________________________________________ > >>> Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com > >>> To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: > >>> http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > >>> > >>> Arizona's Geocaching Resource > >>> http://www.azgeocaching.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential, intended only for the > >>> named > >>> recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or > >>> exempt from > >>> disclosure under applicable law. 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