AHHH, yes! I /_do_/ remember that one! It has since spawned quite a few 
offspring over the years. Certainly a tribute to it's owner! 8-)

Returning to the current cache in question, I have found maybe 5 or 6 
just like it. Some were taking advantage of a pre-existing 'cavity', for 
others the 'cavity' was created expressly for caching purposes. I doubt 
this style is exclusive to our area, but it's certainly more effective 
here. I think the spirit of the rule is meant to exclude the need to use 
tools to 'dig up' a cache.

Oh, and just WHO are you calling an 'old timer', Joe?

Joe Brekke wrote:

> Actually many caches here in Oregon are hidden just as you describe.  
> In a area of thick forest with variable (at best) signal.  Usually 
> they are buried up to the lid of the container, and then covered with 
> pine needles or decomposing leaves, etc.  They can be pretty tough to 
> find.
>  
> As far as Arizona, I have found a handful of caches that are "buried" 
> in some way...I'm sure the "old timers" on the list can remember a 
> certain cache at a monument commemorating a pretty famous prospector 
> that when it first came out had a lot of us scratching our 
> heads...especially me.  It was a fun cache, I'm sure most who found it 
> in the first few months of its existence would agree that it was one 
> of their favorite cache.
>  
> Point is, there are some buried caches, I can't say that I have ever 
> found one where I needed a digging implement of some kind...I think 
> that is what the guidelines are referring to, they don't want people 
> out there digging holes all over the place to find a cache.  However, 
> leaves, pine needles, rocks, etc. covering the top of a cache in my 
> opinion is fine.
>  
> Joe
> TeamBlunder
>
>      
>
>     I feel that we should not bury a cache completely.  If I were to
>     bury a
>     cache in the woods by me I can promise you it would never be
>     found.  I
>     could cover it with pine needles and the signal would not be
>     stable with
>     the trees around you.  I'm sure I read somewhere that it is not
>     recommended that you bury your cache completely and I will try to
>     find
>     the reference.
>
>     Bob Smith, Team Petite Elite, Prescott, AZ
>
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