they are the same... think about it if you use a wheel chair could you ride a bike, ah yes a specialty built bike... ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Ayre To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 11:21 AM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] How do you distinguish between a difficult bike cache and an easy one? I'm amazed that there is so much discussion here regarding ratings and special equipment, yet there was so little discussion regarding a rating system for handicap accessibility... Andy