Arizona Virtual Jeep Club web page http://www.azvjc.org/ The information below came from the site above. Where: Various Times and Locations These are work shops you will need to attend both dates at a location to complete the workshop Wickenburg Monday March 3 and Monday March 31 Wickenberg Community Center 6 - 9 p.m. 6 - 9 p.m. 120 N. Valentine Street Black Canyon City Wed. March 5 and Wed. April 2 Black Canyon Community Center 6 - 9 p.m. 6 - 9 p.m. Albins Civic Center 19055 South K-Mine Road Phoenix Thu. March 6 and Thu April 3 Deer Valley Community Center 6 - 9 p.m. 6 - 9 p.m. 2001 West Wahalla Lane, Phoenix 1 block S of Beardsley, S of 101 and 19th Ave Dewey-Humbolt-Spring Valley Sat. March 8 and Sat. April 5 Bradshaw Mountain Middle School 10a.m. to 1 p.m. 12255 Turquoise Circle, Dewey Prescott-Prescott Valley-Chino Valley Sat. March 22 and April 12 Shalot Hall Museum Granite Creek Center 115 S. McCormick (across street from Museum) 10 a.m to 1 Here is what was reported by two members of the Arizona Virtual Jeep Club: (1) I would say there were 50 to 60 people at the meeting. Over half were in RED and by a show of hands about 80% were OHV. As we had a large group we split up to every group to get as much info as possible. Stu and Scott M. went to Recreation, Rick N., and Nichole went to roads and trails, Russ G., Rico G. and Bruce M. went to Land issues, Randy D. and myself went to Resources. Randy and I seemed to be in the largest group of anti-recreationists. One guy wanted to know what could be done to eliminate noise from I-10 effecting the Big Horn Sheep in the area west of White Tanks. I suggested ear plugs. The anti- recreationists are trying to get as much Wilderness area as they can. I had a note installed in the record to the effect no new Wilderness areas. They are trying to do this by dividing up and each area suggest a different area. The BLM stated that they can not make a Wilderness area but can make a Wilderness Study area. I asked how a study area would be managed until Congress makes the decision. It will be managed as a Wilderness area! I pointed out that this basically made it an illegal Wilderness area the BLM agreed. We have no real threaten species in this area so this should not effect our trails. I heard Stu getting loud a couple times and will leave it to him to tell everyone what he learned in the Recreation group. The Trails group was surprised to only have maps available that did not show any of the Enterprise team trails. I was promised by the BLM that at the next meeting they will have the complete set of maps. They will also have several meetings to go over trails exclusively. Russ and Bruce made the point in the Land meeting that we wanted all areas taken off the table for trade. One of them will need to add what info they feel is needed. Overall we had a strong showing and the BLM reps noted several times that this was the best meeting to date. Last note we all need to be involved in this process. Overwhelm them with numbers and Red Shirts. Jim F. (2) The Recreation work group was pretty well behaved and I was pleased with the variety of issues that were brought to the table. From what I could see, none were aimed at reducing our preferred method of recreating (Scott, feel free to chime in and give your opinion here if you so desire). If Jim perceived me as getting loud a few times, it was due to my passion for the topic being discussed. ;>) We had a dispersed group in that we had quad/bike users, Jeepers/wheelers, RVers that like to do light Jeepin' when camping, one guy who flies his light aircraft into old air strips to camp and explore (now that is a different approach to getting to a camp spot), and a Jeeper who's main interest is in Geocaching. Our moderators were pretty much on the ball and one of the two BLM employees was a good acquaintance from last years OHV Conference. We touched on issues (and even some potential solutions) ranging from weekend "junk" shooters to homeless people to camping access to geocaching and quite a variety of ways in which these things and many others could impact our use of BLM going into the future. We tried, as best we could, to suggest items that could be included in the resource management plan that would allow for the handling of possible issues well into the future, should the need arise.....we did this in hopes that the plan would not need to be heavily revised but that a part of the plan, which had not yet been implemented, so to speak, could be brought into action. I guess you could say that we were working to make sure that the plan had enough flexibility built into it that we could continue to manage the resources without the need to have a new plan developed. I too was happy with the turn out but I got the impression that many of the folks were not OHVers from the valley but rather folks from the Prescott/Dewey area. While they certainly have a vested interest in the management plan, it is just as much YOUR plan as it is theirs....and you need to be involved in its development. This single point can not be emphasized enough! I also want to personally thank Bruce and Nichole for coming to the meeting. They were "BLM first timers" and I think I can safely say they walked away with a new awareness of the issues that are eroding away at our ability to simply go Jeepin'. I enjoyed the conversation during the drive up and back and look forward to our next meeting. ==================================================================== The BLM plan that is being worked will be around for a long time (10 - 15+ years). Some Geocachers may want to attend and have input on some of the meetings that are left? Ken Henson (aka - Lincoln)