You're right, Dan, it doesn't mention it anywhere. The "Guide to Creating and Hiding a Cache" http://www.geocaching.com/articles/making.asp does say this, though: "If you place the cache on public lands you need to contact the managing agency to find out about their rules." Steve Team Tierra Buena There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". -- Dave Barry -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Koch, Dan Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 4:49 PM To: 'listserv@azgeocaching.com' Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Superstition Caches I'm not trying to be pugnacious, but can someone point me to where it says that caches cannot be located in wilderness areas? I don't see any mention of it on the 'Cache Listing Requirements' page on geocaching.com. Thanks, Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: Team Tierra Buena To: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:49 AM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Superstition Caches I've been trying to avoid this thread, but I've had a few private emails in addition to what's been posted on the listserver, so I'm going to quote myself, and reuse part of a reply I sent to another cacher, because I haven't seen this point of view surface here yet: I think the rangers had every right to do what they did. I have two reasons for that view. Number one, designated wilderness areas have always been off-limits to cache placement. Even Scott Wood, who welcomes caches in Tonto, excluded designated wilderness areas, and the Superstitions, including the entire area around the Peralta Trail, are so designated.