At 10:10 AM 10/7/2002 -0700, you wrote: >I don't have a problem with them defending their logo, but he is also >trying to quash people's attempts to unite against another logo in my opinion. I missed the whole second and third pages of that thread. I do see what you mean. He hasn't really come out and said that he doesn't want another logo, but he certainly doesn't seem to support the issue. I just sent him a message to see if the changes over there will impact my signature items that will hopefully arrive any day. Who knows, they might be collectors items before I place a single one in a cache. :-) In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com