steve, i think that's a great idea. especially the part about inviting the nfs to take part. it would give them the opportunity to see just what we do in a "real time" situation, and also give them a chance to participate in a cache "find". im not sure if we could make it or not, (a bit of a drive) but we will keep track of your progress and plans on these pages. take care, and we hope it's a great success. "team lake havasu", wendy, patrick, and dog.