I echo the comments of Andy, Scott, etc. Groundspeak/gc.com has become a monopoly, perhaps not in any legal sense of the word (I wouldn't know), but certainly a monopoly in fact. Their management has come to the conclusion that they not only own a website, but that they own Geocaching. How else can one explain their complete disdain for their customers, when so much of their profit is based on the volunteer labor they receive from those very same customers? How much do you think a "premium membership" would cost if they had to pay their reviewers the federal minimum wage? All we can do is thank folks like Artemis who freely give of their time to advance what we do, although their efforts have the unpleasant side effect of lining Mr. Irish's pockets. I, too, have owned my own business, and I've been in the business world since before many of you were born. And I still haven't recovered from Mr. Irish's post this past July (http://tinyurl.com/d6rss) in which he writes: "I'm a firm believer of firing your worst customers...". No business owner can believe that unless they are convinced of two beliefs: 1) Their business is the 800-pound gorilla in their market, and 2) NOTHING is ever going to change that fact. Belief number one, in this case, is fact. Whether belief number two continues to remain fact will be borne out only by time. This particular market (a commercial Geocache listing service) has significant barriers to entry, and the shoulders of the Information Superhighway are so littered with proof of that, we could probably hold a CITO event. (Anyone else besides me remember geogamers.com?) One of the reasons Groundspeak has been so successful is because they have managed to make people forget that they are a profit-making organization. They ask their customer base to endure inconveniences as though doing so is supporting a not-for-profit. "Premium members" who now have to request their pocket queries every week know exactly what I'm referring to. How long would you stay with your email provider if you had to send them an email every week saying, "Please, sir, I want some more..."? But you have dozens of options for receiving email. The reality is, you don't have a lot of options if you're an active cacher, and Groundspeak milks that reality for every expense-cutting maneuver they can concoct, regardless of how much they inconvenience their customers. There's no point in complaining to management. If they don't like what you're saying, well, they're "... a firm believer of firing your worst customers...". That, in the final analysis, has been the difference between gc.com, and this website/listserv. Brian and Jason conceived this site, brought it to life, and have done all they have over the years out of a love of Geocaching and a desire to improve the caching experience. Though many would dispute that it's a positive thing, I think the reason Arizona has never had a formal Geocaching organization is because azgc.com has done such an admirable job of providing most of the benefits such an organization might bring. We are all in your debt, gentlemen. As Scott said, I'd rather give you guys the thirty bucks a year just to download AZ caches, and take my chances on the increasingly rare occasions I do go out-of-state. But the only way I can think of to deflate Groundspeak's arrogance would take a lot of time, skills (not just computer skills, but marketing skills and customer-oriented business skills as well), and some fairly deep pockets. Given that, though, I believe they are ripe for the plucking. Their corporate actions are making it more achievable every day. Steve Team Tierra Buena