Same here. I've also done a few locationless beyond the original couple I did early on in caching, but the latter ones were for the history involved in finding them. With the Lewis & Clark trail forging right through this area, it was like shooting ducks in a barrel to find something, but I spent time looking for something unique that I didn't think others around here would have thought about. I also did one about old wood bridges, primarily for the exclusivity of it. The bridge I logged is on Beartooth Ranch, which until very recently was a 22,000 acre ranch owned by Mel Gibson. It's private ranch property, but there is a small plot of land along the Stillwater River where a series of cabins (I think 6) exist. Those with rights to be at those properties have permission from the ranch to tool around wherever, which is how I discovered this series of bridges. I logged the find because I'll probably be the only cacher on this property legally, and it's clear that the bridge is quite old. Virtuals are certainly a good thing, this I cannot argue with. I do think that GC.com could let go of the stranglehold on policy surrounding them to a degree, so that they don't become part of a virtual 'power drive' where every historic sign, no matter the insignificance, is a virtual cache one can log a find on. All this being said, I agree to a point that TC.com is filling a niche that may serve a segment of the caching world well. I just hope that if it thrives that it isn't based on a rebellious nature that will hurt caching more than it would help. The nude caching locationless is already pushing the limits of what I think is appropriate in an activity that is supposed to bring families together, regardless of whether or not ammo cans and logbooks are used to conceal body parts. I've interacted with Snoogans on a number of occasions, and always knew him to be a different type of thinker. Two of the 3 locationless he mentions in that particular thread I wouldn't want to have out there because of those who would abuse the cache 'rules' for the sake of being a smart*$$. Brian Team A.I. -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Scott Wood Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 8:26 AM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] TC vs GC At 07:00 AM 3/16/2005, you wrote: >I'd like a site devoted exclusively to virtual caches. All the virtual >caches that I've found have been very scenic or historical and I've >enjoyed every one of them. Some of my favorite caches have been the historical virtual caches. So many of us are from different places, and probably don't know enough about local history. It is great to be able to be educated and see some sites along the way. ____________________________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Arizona's Geocaching Resource http://www.azgeocaching.com DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at either the e-mail address or by calling the telephone number associated with this transmission. Please delete this e-mail from your computer (or discard this fax). Thank You. ____________________________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Arizona's Geocaching Resource http://www.azgeocaching.com