At 10:54 AM 3/8/2005, you wrote: >walking across a Walmart parking lot and checking random light >poles. I'll still grab a find on those if I'm nearby, because to me it at >least shows the owner that their effort was appreciated by my logging a >find on their cache. Could it also justify the 'lame urban cache' >model? Of course. While we will have to disagree about much of your post, namely about the discussion of these topics. What you think is harmful to the cause, others see as healthy and open things up to discussion. People don't have to agree about things, and no one should ever have to feel that they can't post on a topic because others will disagree with them. One of the reasons for a list like this is so that people can express opinions and share ideas. What you call "fighting/bickering/ridiculing" others simply call a discussion. The one thing I will agree with you about is not going out and finding the caches you don't care for. We were guilty of that for quite awhile, and to some level might still be, but take a look at the latest log I posted. I posted a note saying that as I approached the cache area, it became clear that this was going to be a cache that I just didn't care for. Here is the link. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=6668268b-1316-4c3e-bd3c-fede9753e0a0 ____________________________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Arizona's Geocaching Resource http://www.azgeocaching.com