only to pay for the medical bills
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Trisha" <trisha@brasher.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] RE: forwarded forum post about micro/urban
caches


> OMG EvilFish! You actually WORK???
>
> :-) :-)
>
> take care friend, it was so fun meeting you finally in Prescott!
>
> Trisha
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> On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 07:19:57 -0700, "EvilFISH" wrote:
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> let me add hiding a cache with the intent of it
> being found....
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> anyway
>
> back to work
>
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From:
>   Bill Nolan
>
>   To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 6:53
>   AM
>   Subject: [Az-Geocaching] RE: forwarded
>   forum post about micro/urban caches
>
>
>   Ah yes, another
>   controversy.. This is such an interesting group. There are
>   obviously many ways to enjoy this sport, but some participants feel
> threatened
>   if you choose to enjoy it in some other way than their favorite. We
> have
>   the Urban vs Rural, Micro vs Traditional, Hiders vs Finders, and, of
> course,
>   the Numbers People vs the No-Numbers People. I'm sure many of you
> can
>   think of others. Then we wonder why war is so common.
>
>   I have experienced
>   this firsthand. My wife and I choose not to log caches, not because
> we
>   think there is anything wrong with the numbers game, but simply
> because we
>   don't want to participate in that. When I mentioned that on this
> list, I
>   received several private emails (from people still active here) that
> could
>   only be described as abusive and threatening. Part of that was
> because I
>   was interviewed by a reporter from Phoenix who knew me and knew I
> was active
>   in the sport, and some here didn't think I had the "numbers" to
> speak out like
>   that.
>
>   Then we made our
>   second mistake. We placed a cache. It wasn't anything special, but
>   the emails it brought me were even worse than the first batch. How
> dare
>   I place a cache when my find numbers were so low? It was obvious I
>   didn't have the experience to actually place a cache. Well, I'm a
> fast
>   learner. The other ammo cans I bought are still sitting, fully
> stocked,
>   out in my storage shed. I didn't want to get any more nasty
>   emails. Too bad. We do a lot of 4-wheeling, and I have some good
>   places in mind.
>
>   Geocaching is a great
>   sport, accessible to people of all ages and levels of physical
> ability.
>   If it fails the test of time, it will be because of people who think
> their way
>   is the right way - the ONLY right way.
>
>   So, we will continue
>   to play, our way. We don't log our finds very often, and we don't
> do
>   urban caches. Since we choose to live 8 miles outside a very small
> town,
>   it shouldn't come as a surprise that we avoid cities. We also quit
>   hiding caches, so those of you here who jumped all over us for the
> first one
>   (you know who you are) - well, I'll give you a win on that
>   one.
>
>   Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   From:
>   az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
>   [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of
> GaleSent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 5:21
>   AM
>
>   Next time you place a cache......let's
>   get back to what made us want to go geocaching in the first
>   place."
>
>
>
>   I had to respond to this one.
>
>
>
>   This article was written by someone who wants to
>   return to the days where only physically fit people have access to
> caches.
>   Like it or not, other people have become geocachers. Physically
> unfit people
>   have discovered an activity they can enjoy. I dont see why both
> cache types
>   cant co-exist? Ive seen some nice rural caches, as well as junky
> ones.
>   Same with urban caches
>
>
>
>   "Again, lately I have really been
>   enjoying the occasional cache I have found as I have been really
> only
>   doing wilderness hiking caches around Sedona. They are my kind of
> fun."
>
>
>
>
>   Thats great Scott, but it is not my idea of fun. Feel
>   free to play your way. I cant do those kinds of caches. Ever since
>   falling down stairs 12 yrs ago, I have not had the mobility I used
> to have. I
>   would like to continue to play the game my way without feeling like
> an
>   unwelcome outsider.
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