>From: Scott Sparks >>-Rob (Wily Javelina) > >I don't put much stock in cache ratings. I seldom even look at them except >when the description seems unusually difficult. The reason is because >there is always somebody who thinks they're ''all that'' and that first >cache that they just hid deserves a five-star difficulty rating when, in >reality, it's maybe a 1.5 or 2. Then there are those who spend their free >time hanging upside down from cliffs and such and they figure the 12 mile >trek to the cache they hid on top of a sheer rock out-cropping is ''just a >measly ol' 1 or 1.5'' when, for the average Joe (or JoAnne), it's a true >5/5. I rank caches that I hunt for as follows: If I find 'em in the first >few minutes, they're easy. If I can't find them at all, or it takes me >several attempts and a couple sleepless nights, I call them difficult. ;-) Sprocket is right on with his comments. That is very true. The ratings on caches often times are way off. I have made many grueling hikes to cache that were rated only a 2.5 terrain while others are a 'walk in the park' and were rated a 4.5 terrain! Take Bronco Butte Cache for instance (GCC7A)... it was rated a 5 for terrain. Now anyone who understands how the ratings work knows you CANNOT rate a cache with a terrain rating of 5 unless it REQUIRES special equiptment to get to it. They guy who hid Bronco Butte Cache did it with a helicopter. He is a low find cacher. But, thought he was hiding the hardest cache in Arizona when he hid that cache. He thought there was no way up there without a helicopter. Turns out there is a fairly decent trail all the way up the mountain. Quit frankly.. I thought Lost Ark Cache (now archived) was a MUCH harder hike than Bronco Butte. At least Bronco Butte had a trail! I would have given Bronco Butte a 4. Lost Ark a 4.5. But, neither can have a 5, because it only requires a hike to get to either one. I can name a few caches right off the top of my head that are more difficult than Bronco Butte (Picketpost: Summit comes to mind as one I just did recently). Also, look at the difficulty rating of Bronco Butte... the difficulty rating is based on how hard it is to find the cache once at the coordinates (correct me if I am wrong on that). Bronco Butte was given a 4. It was very easy to find. Just had to hike up there to find it! :) There was no where to hide it! Anyone walking by would have seen it. I wouldnt give it more than a 1.5 for diff. Interesting side fact.. We are still the last team to visit Bronco Butte WAY back on June 9th, 2002!!!! Come one people, get out of the city a bit more and smell some real wildflowers!!! :) :) :) So, with all this said and what Sprocket said.. the rating arent worth a hill of beans. As I said in my last post... I think the number of finds is the most accurate ranking... you have to be a well rounded cacher to get to the top of the rankings. Gotta do those urban caches and you gotta do some hiking and climbing with the wilderness caches. Scott Team Ropingthewind _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE online virus check for your PC here, from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963