do they consider AZGeocaching a threat? I don't understand you guys make their stuff much easier to use, and understand. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Casteel" To: Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics > Brian, > > How much total data do you believe is being grabbed from geocaching.com > daily when you were pulling the 'usual' stuff? > > Brian > Team A.I. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Cluff" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 9:03 AM > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics > > > > I would prefer to just get them let us contiunue to do business as usual. > > They HAD to have made more money on the existance of azgeocaching.com > > than the money they can claim they were loosing if we weren't around, > > not to mention that azgeocaching.com off loads a heck of a lot more > > bandwidth than it's taking up by crawling the official site. > > There have also been a ton of people that wanted to donate to us in the > > past that we just asked to get a membership instead. Without > > geocaching.com's data our site is very boreing. Jason and I feel that > > it's in their best interest in let us continue on as usual as I feel > > those same people will probably just not renew their membership in > > protest of us getting shut down potentialy costing geocaching.com > thousands. > > > > I would be open to starting our own deal, but thats just way more work > > and responsibility that I would like to deal with, and it probably > > doesn't have the numbers of people behind it to potentially make it > > profitable, so it would be a TON of time that just HAD to be put into > > it. Don't get me wrong, I love doing azgeocaching.com, but there are > > some days that I just don't even want to look at it. I wouldn't want to > > run a site that absolutly required maintainace every day without a > > little something extra to make it worth my while, and help pay the > > bills. Spreading out the site is a good idea, but it doesn't get rid o > > the fact that the site, however small it is would still need to be > > maintained, and having to do a couple of things a day is almost more > > annoying than haveing to do a bunch of things. Thats always been the > > nice thing about azgeocaching.com, that for the most part, it's been > > self maintaining. We could spend as much or as little time as our > > schedules dictated, and this time of the year it's been a real blessing > > to not HAVE to babysit a website. > > > > Anyway, I guess it would take some further discussion. > > > > Brian Cluff > > Team Snaptek > > > > Brian LaFrance wrote: > > > I'm all for starting our own open source version specific to > Arizona...if we > > > could get enough resources together, it might be kind of fun to try. > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com > > > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Jason > > > Poulter > > > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:33 PM > > > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > > > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics > > > > > > > > > maybe we should just dump geocaching.com all together and write our own > > > site!!! ;) > > > > > > or at least a distributed database that everyone and anyone could setup > > > and access all over the world with open source code etc... > > > > > > jason > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian LaFrance wrote: > > > > > > > > >>Maybe we could figure out a way to distribute the workload across > several > > >>servers. I also have a server that I could run the code on. It may be > > >>something where we could each query a range of cache numbers, user ID's, > or > > >>some other way of breaking the load up. Not sure if that would help > > > > > > though. > > > > > >>We all may end up banned from scraping data off Geocaching.com...it > could > > > > > > be > > > > > >>a fun project to try though. > > >> > > >>Brian > > >>Team AZEvil > > >> > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com > > >>[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of > > >>bcasteel@cox.net > > >>Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:35 PM > > >>To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > > >>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics > > >> > > >> > > >>That's a good idea, in theory. However, not every cacher can write code > > >>like the Snaptek guys, nor can everyone understand how to run a script > of > > >>this nature. If they gave me the code, I'd gladly throw it up on my > server > > >>to run, and all would be happy. :) > > >> > > >>Brian > > >>Team A.I. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>From: Bob Renner > > >>>Date: 2003/09/04 Thu PM 05:34:29 EDT > > >>>To: Arizona Geocaching List > > >>>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics > > >>> > > >>>Jason, > > >>> > > >>>I realize this would be a total rewrite of your > > >>>statistics gathering software, but it might be a way > > >>>to lessen the load it puts on the geocaching.com > > >>>website. Instead of crawling the entire data base, go > > >>>to the individual profile pages of Arizona geocachers, > > >>>and get the information from the "User Stats" pages. > > >>>Anyone who wants to have their information included > > >>>into the AZgeocaching web page, would have to tell you > > >>>to include them in your list. You could still include > > >>>the logs of others on the caches within Arizona. > > >>> > > >>>Another, approach would be for you to provide the code > > >>>for Arizona geocachers to run on their own computers > > >>>to get their basic information from geocaching.com and > > >>>then automatically forward this to you to be compiled > > >>>into one database. The advantage of this would be > > >>>that the load on geocaching.com would be from multiple > > >>>IP addresses and only when a user knows his/her stats > > >>>need to be updated (i.e. when they have found or > > >>>placed a new cache). > > >>> > > >>>Just a thought that might help get around any blocking > > >>>you are experiencing. > > >>> > > >>>Bob Renner > > >>> > > >>>__________________________________ > > >>>Do you Yahoo!? > > >>>Yahoo! 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