4hours!? I just use the cheapie ni-cad AA's from Rad Shack and two of them last for a couple of days...or more in my Etrex Legend and I regularly have my GPS on for very long periods at a time (like all day sometimes). Scott Team Ropingthewind _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail