Howdy and welcome to AZ geocaching! Just my opinion, but I think the Garmin Etrex Legend or Vista is the best bang for your buck when it comes to GPS units. The vista can be found for a pretty reasonable price these days on Ebay too. I have a Legend (pretty much the same as the Vista) and I have been very pleased with it. I like it so much, that I have been using it for the past year for ballooning competitions (I fly hot air balloons). I also have a Garmin 3+ (I did, I sold it) that I used for ballooning, but I like the Legend because it is very small and handy and started using it for competitions when It was originally purchased for geocaching! Has lots of great features (even 1000 waypoints stored). The Legend has all the features of the Vista except... the Legend store 8mb map while the Vista has 24mb. Also, the Vista has an altimeter and something else on it that the Legend does not. I would like to purchase a Vista as well and keep the Legend as my backup. These two are the only Etrex models that allow for map downloading. The only problems I have ever experienced with the Legend/Vista is what has already been discussed here... the rubber grip that goes around the side of it may start to peel off after a bit of heavy use on hot days. The glue/paste on the backside melts away when it gets hot out. I never turned mine back in to have this problem fixed and have been using the GPS for almost 2 years now since this first happened and the grip is still on there. But, that is the only prob I have experienced with it. >>>Steve (Team Tierra Buena Wrote): >One other caution: You can’t really take advantage of the mapping >capabilities of the Vista unless you >spring for one or more of Garmin’s >proprietary MapSource CDs. Those are hard to find with any >significant >discounting, and they ain’t no bargain, but they are the only thing that >will work, as far as I >know. Steve is correct, the base map is very BASic :). Not much to it. But, you will find that with any brand GPS you buy. You simply have to purchase mapping software. The Garmin Mapsource is actually the best bargin out there really. Mapsource's topo maps cover the entire USA on 2 disks (west and east). Each one costs like $116 dollars each (or somewhere around there). Any other mapping software I have seen puts each state in a seperate package and usually on 4 or 5 disks for each state. Each state is priced at about $100 each! Now, go out and buy all 50 states. If you travel around the country like I do.. this is not practical! However, the Mapsource is not quite as detailed (1:50) as those state map CD's(1:24), but it is plenty enough detailed for me. Scott Team Ropingthewind _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail