At 09:21 AM 5/8/2003 -0700, you wrote: >I'm not sure if bicycles are available to rent in cities (I know they are >in resort mountain and seaside communities), but one could probably borrow >a bike from someone without too much difficulty. If I lived near this >cache, then I would offer my mountain bike to loan to geocachers if they >need one to do this cache. I have no doubt that it is a good cache, but I think the rating is misleading on it. If I have to go through the effort to get equipment I don't currently have, then it is special equipment. My understanding of the rating system, and how I try to rate my caches, state that anything under a 5 doesn't require anything special in order to find the cache. Scott scott@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com