Ya know, sometimes I think that hiding caches for people to enjoy finding in this "sport" of geocaching is just tooo much trouble: the cost of the containers, logs and initial stuff; the time and trouble to pick out a spot and place the cache, and then it seems so many don't appreciate it, people are always complaining about SOMETHING (from all sides), some don't hide enough of their own caches to make it fair for others to be able to have caches to find....and you have to go and fix your placement when some idiot ruins it, and then people downright steal stuff. Geez! Make me want to just quit all this and remove and archive my 12 caches. I have given alot to this hobby for others to enjoy. I've enjoyed many caches. But lately it just seems like too much trouble. Trisha "Lightning" Prescott "Regan Smith" wrote: Was just thinking again     so what should be done when you find a cache that the owner hasn't fixed after being plundered? I mean say 2 teams visit the site a week apart both stating that the cache is in diss repair or missing and the cache owner hasn't responded to any emails or postings to the matter??? then what would be appropriate time for fixing a cache???