Someone post some coordinates of abandoned cars... Let's start this weekend. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Nelson" To: Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Superstition Caches > Yes, in fact I was a little worried about that statement as it was being > repeated. Those who haven't been following this thread might think I was > giving some inside information. It was, as you say, based only on Joe's > message so we shouldn't get carried away with what might be just rumors or > otherwise unsubstantiated remarks. > > I really like these ideas about making wrecked cars into cache containers, > though. This could expand into all kinds of ways to change government for > the better. Cachers could be the saviours of America! :O) > > Jerry > Offtrail > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Burkett" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:37 PM > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Superstition Caches > > > > A fundamental question here: > > > > Jerry, when you say "It seems all National Forest caches will soon be > > removed," is that a statement based on something someone in an official > > capacity told you, or is it your conclusion from Joe's message? > > > > It seems like a perfectly valid conclusion to draw, based on what we're > > hearing from the Tonto NF folks, but a conclusion and a statement of > > authority are two different things. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com > > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Jerry > > Nelson > > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 8:12 PM > > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Superstition Caches > > > > It seems all National Forest caches will soon be removed. > > > > I'll admit I wasn't at all upset about removing caches in wilderness but > > feared it would be expanded to all forest service land. When you think > about > > the damage other types of recreational and economic uses are doing, > caching > > seems extremely low impact by comparison. So cows are OK, but not caches? > > ...sigh. > > > > Steve, does this mean the Feb. 2 event is cancelled? > > > > Jerry > > Offtrail > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joe Brekke" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 6:31 PM > > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Superstition Caches > > > > > > > I too went to the Mesa Ranger Station today to pick up our cache that > was > > > taken from the Peralta Trail area. The folks there were very nice, and > I > > > apologized for placing it there. He told me pretty much twhat I thought > > he > > > would that they are concerned with ancillary trails being forged from > > people > > > looking for caches, and also that it was personal property abandoned in > > the > > > Wilderness area. > > > > > > I inquired about permits or if there was a chance of getting permits. > The > > > gentleman replied that there was no way as of now, they had no policy > and > > > basically said that it wouldn't happen soon...as it would have to come > > down > > > on a Federal level. I also asked if there were a way to get permits for > > > placing caches in the Nat'l Forest, he replied no, and same > story...don't > > > hold your breath. He also told me that they were going to start to > remove > > > any caches that are on Forest Service Land...that includes the Nat'l > > > Forest... > > > > > > Looks to me like Jeremy and volunteers at Geocaching.com better get off > > > their high-horse about "Lame Virtual Caches"...(not my favorite > either), > > > message that I got today was that was all that would be acceptable in > > Forest > > > Service Land...and even if they do allow some at some future date, they > > > would be severely restricted. > > > > > > Anyway, I do have the cache, including the travel bug that was in > it....I > > > > > will try to place it soon. > > > > > > Joe > > > TeamBlunder > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com > > > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: > > > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > > > http://www.azgeocaching.com > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com > > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: > > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > > http://www.azgeocaching.com > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com > > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: > > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > > http://www.azgeocaching.com > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com