At 07:09 PM 9/23/2002 -0700, you wrote: >So for now, I'm considering archiving it and just sticking to finds and not >hides. Also, maybe for this newbie this listserv isn't the best place to be >at this time. I think that the best advice for new geocachers is to find a dozen or so before you hide any. That way you get a better feel for what goes into a cache, and what you look for in a cache that you enjoy. As for the list, please don't leave. Normally this list is very friendly, and very helpful. I have to admit that I was telling my wife, who also subscribes, that I felt the list wasn't as friendly as it used to be. Even though I was one of the people involved in the recent thread about caches, I feel that it was an issue that needed to be broached. Somehow I feel that everything that needed to be said has been said, and we know where most of us stand on the issue. Hopefully we can get back to geocaching. :-) Scott Team My Blue Heaven www.myblueheaven.com/geocache