well, Jason, Jerry....the address says "listserv". I took the name from that! Trisha On Mon, 09 September 2002, Jason Poulter wrote: > > it is really called an email list server... but peoples is to lazy and > just call it a listserv.... or at least i do anyway... > > jason > > > Jerry Nelson wrote: > > No doubt, the best caches take you to someplace previously unknown. > I've > > been to caches less than four miles from my home that showed me > places I > > never would have been aware of, and I've lived in the same > neighborhood > > since 1957! I also travel to the Midwest every summer and usually > take > > the same route home. A couple weeks ago I found myself in my usual > motel > > in Chamberlain, South Dakota, where I usually get in with just enough > > time to eat, take a shower and fall asleep in front of the TV. This > year > > there happened to be a cache placed at the edge of town overlooking > the > > Missouri River that took me to a fantastic view of sunset from an > old, > > abandoned railroad track. It's a place I'll probably return to every > > time I find myself in the area. > > > > Geocaching appears to be pretty silly to some people not involved, > but it > > doesn't take long to realize that this is one of main attractions of > the > > game. I've placed some caches where I think people will like the > > surroundings and one which certainly falls in the "stats only" > category. > > It's sometimes as much or more fun to place a cache as it is to find > one, > > and it's good to keep reminding ourselves to try to put just a little > > thought into those we hide. > > > > Here's an off topic question.....not really I guess :o) What is the > > proper word for this thing we're communicating on, a listserv, > listserve > > or listserver? > > > > Jerry > > Offtrail > > > > > > On Mon, 09 Sep 2002 01:11:31 -0700 "Scott Nicol" > <arizcowboy@hotmail.com> > > writes: > > > >> > >> > >>>From: "loran wilcox" <loranwilcox@cox.net> > >>>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > >>>To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com> > >>>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] what makes a good cache > >>>Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 23:22:35 -0700 > >>> > >>>The best caches are those that introduce you to a new area. Without > >> > >>these > >> > >>>there are many places in Arizona I would have never seen. > >>> > >>>I don't need an ammo box with lots of stuff to make a cache good. > >> > >>The good > >> > >>>caches are those that someone has put some thought into. Hiding it > >> > >>in > >> > >>>someplace special, finding a new way to hide the cache, or making a > >> > >>game of > >> > >>>it with a puzzle or some other twist. > >>> > >>>The worst caches are the copycats where a person just feels the > >> > >>need to > >> > >>>hide a cache. > >>> > >>>I am probably the worst one here in the valley at playing the > >> > >>numbers game > >> > >>>but I just have this need to go after any new cache. And I will go > >> > >>after > >> > >>>all caches I can. I don't like all the caches I find. Some are as > >> > >>Cody > >> > >>>stated nothing more than "it counts as a find". Some people have > >> > >>wondered > >> > >>>how I am able to find so many caches. First I have been out of work > >> > >>but > >> > >>>beyond that when I can find 14 caches in 4 and 1/2 hours they are > >> > >>just too > >> > >>>easy and/or too close together. > >>> > >>>As I am leaving the area I will not have much influence on this > >> > >>area but I > >> > >>>truly believe that more thought needs to be put into the placement > >> > >>of > >> > >>>geocaches. I know there is that need to place a cache and a simple > >> > >>one near > >> > >>>home for the first cache is probably acceptable. But later hides > >> > >>need to > >> > >>>show more thought. > >>> > >>>For the new cachers out there, wait awhile before you hide a cache > >> > >>to learn > >> > >>>some of the tricks. This will make the game more enjoyable for > >> > >>everyone. > >> > >>>Don't worry about a negative karma number. If you look closely the > >> > >>most > >> > >>>driven cachers have the highest negative karma (with exceptions). > >> > >>It > >> > >>>doesn't mean a thing. No one expects you to hide a lot of caches. > >> > >>They only > >> > >>>want you to hide good caches. > >>> > >>>Have I said to much? > >>> > >>>Loran (Team Sand Dollar) > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >>hhhhhhmmmmmmm... what makes a good cache.... "Any cache that I can > >>find is a > >>good cache!" :) LOL LOL LOL :) > >> > >>Seriously. I agree with Loran's post totally. No one could have said > >>it > >>better. > >> > >>Team RTW is hoping to get out next weekend to hide our very first > >>cache (!). > >>We have 331 cache finds and none hidden. (You want to talk about > >>Cache > >>Karma!?) :O We want our first cache hide to be a special one. There > >>are a > >>few places that we want to hide our first cache and we have been > >>waiting > >>quite a while to place it utilizing my hot air balloon in a given > >>location. > >>However, we have waited this long and the opportunity doesnt seem to > >>be > >>around the corner anytime soon. So, we are going to put it in > >>another one of > >>those few places. The place we want to hide it is a place we have > >>looked at > >>many, many times as we have driven by it and have always wanted to > >>hike to > >>this location. There is something at this location that has always > >>interested us. We have never been there so we don't know what it is. > >>But, we > >>want to hike there to find out. We are going to put our first cache > >>near > >>this location. That gives the cache a reason for location. There is > >>a bit of > >>thought needed for us to hide it as well as for those that will seek > >>this > >>cache out. As I am kinda 'old school', it will be a coordinates > >>takes you to > >>the cache (ammo box) kinda cache. However, the views should be > >>awsome and > >>well worth the adventure getting there. Enough said. No more hints! > >>:) > >> > >>We will also bring along 2 GPS's to allow each to average out to get > >>the > >>best possible coordinates. I will use a Garmin and a Magellan GPS. > >>Hopefully > >>we can provide very accurate coordinates. We will then confirm the > >>coordinates using a 7.5' topo as well. > >> > >>As far as contents... that is still up for debate. Have a couple of > >>themes > >>that we are thinking about. Still deciding which one! :) > >> > >>Anyways, these are just some thoughts in my mind I thought I would > >>share > >>with those newcomers (without many finds) that are thinking about > >>hiding a > >>cache soon. Put some thought into it, know where you are putting it > >>in terms > >>of landowner issues and a seekers ability to access the cache > >>location, and > >>also take special care to provide the best possible coordinates. > >> > >>On another note: Loran. Sure gonna miss ya' bud! Geocaching will > >>just not be > >>the same around here without ya'! Enjoyed the opportunity to talk > >>with you > >>at some of the caches we have been at together as well as our joint > >>cache > >>hike up to Thompson Peak Cache. I guess this is the only way I will > >>ever > >>catch up to you though! :) LOL I am hoping we can get our first > >>cache hid > >>next weekend so just maybe you can get one last cache in before you > >>leave! > >>;) We would really like for you to get the first find on it too! :) > >>If not, > >>we hope you will get back out Arizona way and visit our cache > >>sometime. > >>Enjoy Michigan and I wish you all the best for your new job and new > >>life in > >>Michigan. > >> > >>Scott > >>Team Ropingthewind > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > >>http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Az-Geocaching mailing list > >>listserv@azgeocaching.com > >>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > >> > >>Arizona's Geocaching Resource > >>http://www.azgeocaching.com > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > listserv@azgeocaching.com > > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > > http://www.azgeocaching.com > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > listserv@azgeocaching.com > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Although no one can go back and make a brand new start, Anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~