> I know that this has been posted > before but could someone tell me where to go to get the > permit or if it can be done by mail? Call 602-364-ASLD (2753). Leave your name and address (spell everything), and they will mail you a permit application which you can return with your check. The whole phone/mail process should take less than two weeks from the time you call. More info on the permits at http://www.land.state.az.us/programs/natural/rec_offroad_permit.htm. The State Land Department home page is at: http://www.land.state.az.us/index.html. If you want to go in person, you can get the permit right away at the Land Trust Headquarters at 1616 West Adams, Phoenix, just east of the State Capitol and north of Wesley Bolin Plaza. This office is also within a quarter mile of five(!) virtual caches. The web page lists an information center at 222 North Central, Phoenix, but I don't know if you can get permits there or not. Steve Team Tierra Buena