From az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com Sun Dec 4 21:40:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: geolurker@listserv.azgeocaching.com Delivered-To: geolurker@listserv.azgeocaching.com Received: from cornwallis.duncanmultimedia.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by duncanmultimedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58CC6C4009; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 21:40:31 -0600 (CST) X-Original-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Delivered-To: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com X-Greylist: delayed 443 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at cornwallis; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:40:30 CST Received: from fed1rmfepi101.cox.net (fed1rmfepi101.cox.net [68.230.241.132]) by duncanmultimedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04ED36C4001 for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 21:40:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from fed1rmimpo210.cox.net ([68.230.241.161]) by fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20111205033259.NJFF3805.fed1rmfepo102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo210.cox.net> for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 22:32:59 -0500 Received: from LazyKDesktopII ([68.3.224.251]) by fed1rmimpo210.cox.net with bizsmtp id 5FYy1i00H5S3ioc03FYywJ; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 22:32:58 -0500 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020208.4EDC3B6A.0096,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=cLu+NoAfMH0732mB/zGl0Ymo9owEeuyK2bKL9MNkcHM= c=1 sm=1 a=lahbDw8u_NAA:10 a=oFWZ4ezwGXYA:10 a=kqPXxq1I4zYbwXPCA7i1Kw==:17 a=Dy2l0uIaAAAA:8 a=Wlxh1-nbAAAA:8 a=6FB5isAGAAAA:8 a=31XcC5zhAAAA:8 a=-ktCJzLIGEf1YrtjJRMA:9 a=M51YlxH0rjYLgdShJc4A:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=-gjvkF3_Hd4A:10 a=WP-Lw16rzysA:10 a=PhrHWYmRtXUA:10 a=XzptiCaceGAA:10 a=qXdBObAB9fUA:10 a=vJGxIJ3WP68A:10 a=vEX8d5rsYt0fPWAMp28A:9 a=aSSgK8LHXfw7Y4ksDT8A:7 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=0GoryJslyZsA:10 a=qVElbKcf9EwA:10 a=0k2LyowMzvAA:10 a=1hBGCT1Vr8gA:10 a=kqPXxq1I4zYbwXPCA7i1Kw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Message-ID: From: "Geo @ LazyK" X-Been-There: duncanmultimedia.com X-Been-There: duncanmultimedia.com To: References: <4ED80278.1000709@snaptek.com> <532-1323053216-512451@sneakemail.com> In-Reply-To: <532-1323053216-512451@sneakemail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 20:34:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3538.513 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3538.513 Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Are people still caching? X-BeenThere: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com List-Id: Mailing List for discussing Geocaching in Arizona List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3993829719645885717==" Sender: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com Errors-To: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============3993829719645885717== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_065E_01CCB2C4.21527D10" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_065E_01CCB2C4.21527D10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brian... Is there any way to get to the recent email list archives? = When I go to azgeocaching.com and take the =E2=80=98Mailing List = Archives=E2=80=99 link, it shows the latest messages are only from Mar = 2011. LazyK =E2=80=93 Dan From: Team Tierra Buena=20 Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 7:46 PM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20 Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Are people still caching? We're still caching, and we're still enjoying it as much as ever, even = after ten years.. But we've become much more selective about the kinds = of caches we go after. I don't think it's dying, I think it's just = become fragmented in a number of ways: geographically, for one, how the = caching communities communicate internally and externally is another, = and perhaps most significantly, there is fragmentation in terms of what = cachers see as their goals. For many, it's become a numbers game, and I = think it's a tribute to geocaching that it's been able to adapt to = accommodate that. And all the other ways to play that have evolved over = the years. For us, though, it's still and always has been about = location. We want to cache someplace that's beautiful or interesting or = unusual, and we don't want finding the cache to be a vision test when we = get there, because our aging eyes will most likely flunk that test and = spoil the fun. Brian, I can also agree with you from experience that trying (or being = forced) to take geocaching from the world of recreation to the world of = business and lawyers will definitely, as you put it, suck the joy out of = it. Someone in one of these recent posts mentioned Halloween = Radioactive... I almost became physically ill seeing those two words in = print again. Those were the years when caching took over our lives, = while at the same time we did next to no caching. =20 Just Hike once referred to us as "old school cachers", and we took that = title with pride. We can't wait until next weekend so we can go out = caching again -- our way. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Brian Cluff brian-at-snaptek.com = |Geocaching-AZ/Sneak1.0 Allow| <4ljlb6dntt@sneakemail.com> wrote: I personally haven't been out in quite a while. The cachers that I = run into all tell me that they aren't looking for caches anymore, though = some say they still go to some of the get together events to hang out = with friends. I know for me the joy was sucked out of it when the lawyers for = geocaching.com contacted us to tell us to take down functionality that = we had created and they had copied.. This discussion list has also died. It used to get a couple dozen = messages a day in its heyday, now we get about a message a month. Are people still caching? It seems like it became a dying/dead fad = from where I sit. 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Brian... Is there any way to get to the recent email list=20 archives?   When I go to azgeocaching.com and take the = =E2=80=98Mailing List=20 Archives=E2=80=99 link, it shows the latest messages are only from Mar = 2011.
 
LazyK =E2=80=93 Dan
 
 
 
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Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Are people still=20 caching?
 
We're still caching, and = we're still=20 enjoying it as much as ever, even after ten years.. But we've become = much more=20 selective about the kinds of caches we go after. I don't think it's = dying, I=20 think it's just become fragmented in a number of ways: geographically, = for one,=20 how the caching communities communicate internally and externally is = another,=20 and perhaps most significantly, there is fragmentation in terms of what = cachers=20 see as their goals. For many, it's become a numbers game, and I think = it's a=20 tribute to geocaching that it's been able to adapt to accommodate that. = And all=20 the other ways to play that have evolved over the years. For us, though, = it's=20 still and always has been about location. We want to cache someplace = that's=20 beautiful or interesting or unusual, and we don't want finding the cache = to be a=20 vision test when we get there, because our aging eyes will most likely = flunk=20 that test and spoil the fun.

Brian, I can also agree with you = from=20 experience that trying (or being forced) to take geocaching from the = world of=20 recreation to the world of business and lawyers will definitely, as you = put it,=20 suck the joy out of it. Someone in one of these recent posts mentioned = Halloween=20 Radioactive... I almost became physically ill seeing those two words in = print=20 again. Those were the years when caching took over our lives, while at = the same=20 time we did next to no caching. 

Just Hike once referred to = us as=20 "old school cachers", and we took that title with pride. We can't wait = until=20 next weekend so we can go out caching again -- our = way.

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Brian Cluff brian-at-snaptek.com=20 |Geocaching-AZ/Sneak1.0 Allow| <4ljlb6dntt@sneakemail.com&g= t;=20 wrote:
I personally haven't been out in quite a = while.  The=20 cachers that I run into all tell me that they aren't looking for = caches=20 anymore, though some say they still go to some of the get together = events to=20 hang out with friends.

I know for me the joy was sucked out of = it when=20 the lawyers for geocaching.com contacted us to tell us to take = down=20 functionality that we had created and they had copied..

This = discussion=20 list has also died.  It used to get a couple dozen messages a day = in its=20 heyday, now we get about a message a month.

Are people still=20 caching?  It seems like it became a dying/dead fad from where I=20 sit.

Brian Cluff
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