From az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com Sun Dec 4 20:53:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: geolurker@listserv.azgeocaching.com Delivered-To: geolurker@listserv.azgeocaching.com Received: from cornwallis.duncanmultimedia.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by duncanmultimedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77166C4009; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 20:53:40 -0600 (CST) X-Original-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Delivered-To: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at cornwallis; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 20:53:39 CST Received: from sneak2.sneakemail.com (sneak2.sneakemail.com [38.113.6.65]) by duncanmultimedia.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2FCD06C4001 for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 20:53:39 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 1726 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2011 02:46:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) (192.168.0.1) by sneak2.sneakemail.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2011 02:46:57 -0000 Received: from 209.85.220.171 by mail.sneakemail.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2011 02:46:56 -0000 Received: (sneakemail censored 532-1323053216-512451 #3); 5 Dec 2011 02:46:56 -0000 Received: (sneakemail censored 532-1323053216-512451 #2); 5 Dec 2011 02:46:56 -0000 Received: (sneakemail censored 532-1323053216-512451 #1); 5 Dec 2011 02:46:56 -0000 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Te3H0UbPgWLpjOjiO1kd+J2IbEz8ejEc17pDJOBaBsw=; b=OBaR6x/Wk7d7tO5QUrS3+HxV0e7caVHqiRZOn5p9YDpfuiNkir5GGhpqS0q21ampgM jXqhto5D6nOTSP9snyt3BG3EE28999rja5wiytflEsl+wwuYq3pd6ooGEEYfYArzwXCA 4/NIygYSqpNMLqNOEp07xazdtunXAuzCACAKg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4ED80278.1000709@snaptek.com> References: <4ED80278.1000709@snaptek.com> From: "Team Tierra Buena" <2yh5fyiyg8m9iwb001@sneakemail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 19:46:14 -0700 Message-ID: <532-1323053216-512451@sneakemail.com> X-Been-There: duncanmultimedia.com X-Been-There: duncanmultimedia.com To: listserv@azgeocaching.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Are people still caching? X-BeenThere: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com List-Id: Mailing List for discussing Geocaching in Arizona List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2290911533550766904==" Sender: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com Errors-To: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com --===============2290911533550766904== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b88e6e9bda204b34f5463 --0016363b88e6e9bda204b34f5463 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 We're still caching, and we're still enjoying it as much as ever, even after ten years. But we've become much more selective about the kinds of caches we go after. I don't think it's dying, I think it's just become fragmented in a number of ways: geographically, for one, how the caching communities communicate internally and externally is another, and perhaps most significantly, there is fragmentation in terms of what cachers see as their goals. For many, it's become a numbers game, and I think it's a tribute to geocaching that it's been able to adapt to accommodate that. And all the other ways to play that have evolved over the years. For us, though, it's still and always has been about location. We want to cache someplace that's beautiful or interesting or unusual, and we don't want finding the cache to be a vision test when we get there, because our aging eyes will most likely flunk that test and spoil the fun. Brian, I can also agree with you from experience that trying (or being forced) to take geocaching from the world of recreation to the world of business and lawyers will definitely, as you put it, suck the joy out of it. Someone in one of these recent posts mentioned Halloween Radioactive... I almost became physically ill seeing those two words in print again. Those were the years when caching took over our lives, while at the same time we did next to no caching. Just Hike once referred to us as "old school cachers", and we took that title with pride. We can't wait until next weekend so we can go out caching again -- our way. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Brian Cluff brian-at-snaptek.com|Geocaching-AZ/Sneak1.0 Allow| <4ljlb6dntt@sneakemail.com> wrote: > I personally haven't been out in quite a while. The cachers that I run > into all tell me that they aren't looking for caches anymore, though some > say they still go to some of the get together events to hang out with > friends. > > I know for me the joy was sucked out of it when the lawyers for > geocaching.com contacted us to tell us to take down functionality that we > had created and they had copied. > > This discussion list has also died. It used to get a couple dozen > messages a day in its heyday, now we get about a message a month. > > Are people still caching? It seems like it became a dying/dead fad from > where I sit. > > Brian Cluff > Team Snaptek > AzGeocaching.com > ______________________________**______________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: > http://listserv.azgeocaching.**com/mailman/listinfo/az-**geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com > --0016363b88e6e9bda204b34f5463 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We're still cac= hing, and we're still enjoying it as much as ever, even after ten years= .. But we've become much more selective about the kinds of caches we go = after. I don't think it's dying, I think it's just become fragm= ented in a number of ways: geographically, for one, how the caching communi= ties communicate internally and externally is another, and perhaps most sig= nificantly, there is fragmentation in terms of what cachers see as their go= als. For many, it's become a numbers game, and I think it's a tribu= te to geocaching that it's been able to adapt to accommodate that. And = all the other ways to play that have evolved over the years. For us, though= , it's still and always has been about location. We want to cache somep= lace that's beautiful or interesting or unusual, and we don't want = finding the cache to be a vision test when we get there, because our aging = eyes will most likely flunk that test and spoil the fun.

Brian, I can also agree with you from experience that trying (or being = forced) to take geocaching from the world of recreation to the world of bus= iness and lawyers will definitely, as you put it, suck the joy out of it. S= omeone in one of these recent posts mentioned Halloween Radioactive... I al= most became physically ill seeing those two words in print again. Those wer= e the years when caching took over our lives, while at the same time we did= next to no caching.=A0

Just Hike once referred to us as "old school cachers", and we= took that title with pride. We can't wait until next weekend so we can= go out caching again -- our way.

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Brian Cluff brian-at-snaptek.com |Geocaching-AZ/Sneak1.0 Allow| <4ljlb6dntt@sneake= mail.com> wrote:
I personally haven't been out in quite = a while. =A0The cachers that I run into all tell me that they aren't lo= oking for caches anymore, though some say they still go to some of the get = together events to hang out with friends.

I know for me the joy was sucked out of it when the lawyers for geocaching.com contacted us to= tell us to take down functionality that we had created and they had copied= ..

This discussion list has also died. =A0It used to get a couple dozen messag= es a day in its heyday, now we get about a message a month.

Are people still caching? =A0It seems like it became a dying/dead fad from = where I sit.

Brian Cluff
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